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March 2013

Note from Greg Brubaker, President, Utah Military Vehicle Club

Welcome to the March UMVC Newsletter. Sorry I missed the last meeting, I was down at Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas witnessing Red Flag wargames. I also had a chance to visit the Threat Training Facility. Last time I visited it, you had to have a Secret Clearance and the facility did not exist. Now it is open to the public and you can take photos. So in a future newsletter, I will share some photos of vehicles and aircraft that are there. It is a rare museum in that they are setup for you to crawl into tanks,sit in an Mig 23, or hold an RPG or AK47.

Anyway, spring is close and with the change of weather this week, I am tempted to drag the Jeep out and start driving it. Also, I think it is about time for car shows to start kicking up and what a better chance to show off your vehicle and talk with some vets by some Vettes (Corvettes).

Our next meeting, March 28th, and I think it is another presentation, but do not know what. March is time for our elections, but I think only a couple of positions are open this round. Please make sure you attend and vote.

Don’t forget about our new classified area and also we want to add a recommended military vehicle business that you have had experience with and would recommend. Don’t forget about the welfare of our members and let us know if one is sick, afflicted or just needs help. And could everyone try to make sure any of our members that need one, has a ride to meetings.

I dug into the history book (actually past newsletters) and found some items discussed but not revisited. They are worth mentioning here.

MVPA: Have you thought about joining the Military Vehicle Preservation Association? The pros and cons have generated a heated discussion in our meetings. There is talk about associating our club officially with them; if you have an opinion on the matter bring it up to the president. He wants to hear from you! If you want to join, the cost is $45.

Car Shows: have you been to one? Why or why not? We discussed getting our club out there in the community, and generating interest in military vehicles. Do you know of any that could be listed here in the newsletter?

Our members: I mean prospective new members, former members, or others who are ill or cannot drive. Should we not re-engage them with the club and stay in touch? What can we do to retain the membership we have, as well as recruit new members. Every member is an ambassador. Let’s do our part.

Volunteers: our special occasions will not happen without leadership and gasp volunteers! For you veterans, I know it’s a loaded word but there is plenty to do; come up on the radio net (as they say in the Army) and make your voice heard.

Fort Douglas Museum: The Museum has graciously offered us a meeting place, and asked nothing in return. How can we say thank you? Perhaps by volunteering. They have military vehicles to restore and maintain for one thing. Simply go to fortdouglas.org for contact info

1. The General member list is now published. Dues paying members can get a copy.

2. If you desire to have something in the newsletter or on our website (www.utahmvc.org), you must get it to the editors within the first week of the new month.

3. Presentations are open for April, so please step up and volunteer!

4. Elections for UMVC Officers will be in March with them taking charge in April. Please think about taking charge yourself.

5. For editorials, contributions, or items for sale, contact ron powell at rondoin_98@hotmail.com. We want to showcase your vehicle! Contact me to get it in the newsletter.

6. Do you have a particular business you want to highlight to others to use (or avoid)? The best place to get parts, folks who do quality work, etc. Let us know!

Reports of Officers:

a. Vice President Bob: please let us know if anyone is in the hospital or needs help.

b. Treasurer George: yearly dues should be paid at this time.

c. Quartermaster Layne: the vehicle signs are being negotiated with the vendor.

d. Website Editor Mike: we’ve added a vehicle to our website. What about yours?

FOR SALE:

1985 M1008 with new BFG tires: $4000; 1985 M1009 with great tread on those tires, $4000. This one has really good tires: $7500. Call Matt 801-824-2581. The Duece and a half is no longer for sale, thank you!

LOOKING: Steve Bartkowski (P.O. Box 848, Bedford, IL 60499 – 708-430-5080) is looking for a short bed CCWK (two & half ton) and/or parts for same or the long bed type.

Ed Smith is looking for parts for his 1944 MB: fuel tank straps, tail light, trailer plug, combat rim, right air cleaner bracket. 801-673-2848.

Dave Barber is looking for a WC-52 front bumper, tailgate, and 3 combat wheels. Email him at askykingfan@gmail.com

PRESENTATIONS: Helmet Review for your Military Vehicle (MV). By Ron Sources: Army Knowledge Online, Toppots.net, warrelics.eu (The following is a recap from the February club meeting presentation).

I taught military history for a few years, so I know the importance of accuracy. But the question is, how “anal” should we be with our MVs? I personally think that we have a responsibility to represent ourselves in a historically accurate way. Say you take your M35 Deuce and a Half to the parade and want to have a helmet on board. The appropriate helmet would be a M1 or even Kevlar perhaps, depending on what ‘timeframe’ or ‘impression’ you want to convey. A WW1 era British Brodie helmet in it would just be wrong and out of place. Get the idea? So this is the reason I’m going into some detail when discussing helmets. Only you can decide exactly “how anal” you want to be when presenting your MV in a public setting.

One thing I noticed about MVs is that they are often far more interesting when loaded up with great accessories! Helmets, packs, ammo cans and lucky strikes give the MV that historical appeal. I’ve never “dressed the part”, but I LOVE to see folks dressed in period correct military clothing as well. What a way to honor this hobby we all love. And you don’t have to own a MV to be in the club. Many of our members previously owned MVs and others are re-enactors! All you need is a joy for history and a fellowship with like minded members. Now with all that said, the UMVC has vehicles from the WW1 era to the modern. If you’ve ever been confused or curious as to what helmet might be appropriate for you, then this article is for you!

The doughboy helmet first appeared in WW1. The Brits called theirs the Mark 1 or Brodie. The US produced helmet is different and it’s called the M1917 but was similar to the British design. Jimmy Z pointed out there was also a US version made between WW1 and WW2. Reuel Ipson’s beautiful WW1 era ambulance is definitely ‘period correct’ with a Brodie or M1917. America began WW1 with little arms, artillery, aircraft or helmets. And much of what America started WW2 with was simply left over from WW1. Soldiers wore newer equipment as it was ‘phased in’. Therefore your MB or GPW may be “correct” if you wore a Brodie or M1917 up to around 1942 or so.

The M1 helmet started production in 1940. These helmets are highly prized by collectors. They were made by McCord Radiator and Manufacturing Company of Detroit Michigan. These shells were made from a single piece of Hadfield Manganese steel. Jimmy pointed out that the early M-1 helmet shells had a set of fixed (non-moveable) chinstrap loops (or bales) and a stainless steel rim. These rims were both rust resistant and had “non-magnetic qualities” that reduced the chance of error readings when placed around certain sensitive equipment (like a compass). The fixed bale could be easily broken by Soldiers in the field so the helmets were switched to the swivel bale type. Many were retrofitted later.

The M2 (1942-44) was a variation of the M1 but made for paratroopers. Jimmy Z presented a beautiful rare example! The M-2 helmet was only made by McCord and only 148,000 were ever produced. The difference between the M-1 and M-2 helmet shell were the chinstrap loops. The standard M-1 helmet’s rectangular “fixed” chinstrap loops were replaced with a new curved “D” bale chinstrap loop. The intention was to help chinstrap movement. (Airborne cloth chinstraps were different from infantry models in that they were fitted with a short tab that snapped inside the M-1 paratrooper helmet liner). Note: Original M-2 helmets are extremely rare. Greg Brubaker says if you find one, give it to him. Just kidding! What is this business about front or rear seam? Look at the rim of your M1 helmet and see where the seam comes together (note photo on page 1). Most collectors want a WW2 helmet. For WW2, about 22 million M1 helmets were made! WW2 M1 helmets up to Nov 1944 were front seam. Rear seam M1s were made Nov 44 to Aug 45(after that production started again in 1951). Many people or websites will tell you if a M1 shell is rear seam, then it’s not WW2. Not true. As noted above, some were made. So you have a helmet and you want to know if it’s WW2. How to tell? WW2 shells were darker green and visually taller than later shells. Or you can examine the number found in the inner front of any US M-1 McCord manufactured helmet shell. McCord manufactured the majority of M-1 helmet shells (making 20,000,000 helmets) and they did not place any other identification marks. In addition to McCord, Schlueter began production of its M-1 helmet shells in January 1943, producing only 2 million during the war (both fixed and swivel). They placed an “S” stamp on their helmet shells above their “heat temperature stamp”. They only made WW2 shells. Look inside your helmet shell. If you see a number 0-1300 then it’s a WW2 shell (made by McCord). PASGT: 1983-2000+ (personnel armored system ground troops helmet) aka Kevlar or KPOT. This helmet utilized the revolutionary Kevlar material. It’s the helmet used in Desert Storm and this is where it became most well known. MICH: 2000-2003: modular integrated communication helmet. Initially used by special operators, it quickly gained popularity for its comfort and design. ACH: 2003-present: advanced combat helmet. Based on the MICH design which incorporated those improvements into a stronger more comfortable helmet that could be used with modern tactical vests. In closing, I hope this article gives you some insight into what helmet to choose for your MV. To me, keeping it in context is the best way to stay true to our history. The most discussed helmet, the M1, was used from 1940-1985! Could a 1940 helmet still have been in use in Vietnam? Undoubtedly. With the correct color of cover, and given that helmets were continuously refurbished. So let us not nitpick ourselves into oblivion.